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DizzasterJuice
1st Jul 2019, 5:04 AM

Remember way back in the first chapter that Signos launched a satellite at the direction of Noemi. Assuming that he has access to that satellite, he probably watched the whole "Battle of the Sisters" and knows what was going on outside with the Dalai and Minkie armies.

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Smoothkat
1st Jul 2019, 6:04 AM

Whats in those barrels. Is that....... Awwww HELL NO!!!!!!! TIME TO SCRAM MY LITTLE KITTYS DOUBLE TIME GOGOGOGOGOGO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Haegan2005
1st Jul 2019, 7:39 AM

okay, when an AI is talking about mortality it is time to seriously think about putting space between you and it. Just saying.

Unless it is getting ready to make an offer of some sort.

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Guesticus
1st Jul 2019, 8:48 AM

Thought those were barrels of oil, butt looking at the second last panel, that's gun powder!!

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robnot
1st Jul 2019, 11:17 AM

ok...again he might survive,, out side the room might survive,, sooo...
black powder is NOT an "Explosive".. per say.. it only works as explosive when under compression..
also the other barrels won't "sympathetic explode" unless the open barrel's flash over is hot enough to ignite the barrels..
again back to Hollywood.. most sailing ships did not use exploding shells (had nasty habit of blowing early.!)(song, "bombs bursting in air.") so , ships exploding from one cannon shot was extremely rare.. an more likely a oops, IE: powder runner knocked off balance, an into a deck light..
so whats gonna happen,, think modern concussion grenade.. first barrel flash over , kills all in ten feet,, severely hurts up to 20 feet,, stuns at 30 feet.. if the other barrels go,, than all in room dead,, outside room hurt,, all windows an doors gone and some wall damage..
and since we did not see it ,, say all the barrels are fused (powder trail to each, to cause chain reaction..)

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Smoothkat
1st Jul 2019, 11:44 AM

Loved the explanation very educational and insightful. Will definitely keep all that in my mental rolla-decks. In essence your saying GET THE HELL OUT OF THE DAMN ROOM

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robnot
1st Jul 2019, 9:23 PM

nope... to late.

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DizzasterJuice
1st Jul 2019, 4:35 PM

One keg is gunpowder but that's just the detonator for what's in the other barrels.

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robnot
1st Jul 2019, 9:21 PM

see that is what i was thinking.. this guy is modern, he would know black powder is wimpy, (but a good starter for the indigs..).. but the others have ,, greek fire,, one or two modern explosives,,chunks of magnesium...

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kraznor
4th Jul 2019, 3:48 AM

If they were all gunpowder it will kill all in the room and the next several rooms as well but Dizz did say that there not all gunpowder so ill go for some kind of oil or alcohol for a limited fireball effect, if you want to see what large amounts of gunpowder can do here's a reconstruction of the gunpowder plot here in the UK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTwbkYYdZBw

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robnot
1st Jul 2019, 11:20 AM

also ,, vote,, :) nice flowers..

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DizzasterJuice
1st Jul 2019, 4:36 PM

Kurra are the flower children of the planet who just want to make love, not war.

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Oldarmourer
1st Jul 2019, 6:51 PM

Powder accidents weren't common back in the days of sail, but they were certainly known, that's why powder charges for the guns were stored in cloth bags instead of barrels and carried in metal cans from the magazine to the gundeck, also why bare feet or magazine shoes were required, no nails in footwear of any kind and preferably felt soles to prevent friction from igniting spilled powder before it could be cleaned up, and why although people didn't necessarily know what 'grounding' yourself actually did, it was also a requirement.

Whenever I worked in magazines, even if we weren't using 'black powder', there was still a grounding strip around the entire room and we wore felt soled shoes with copper rivets throug hthe sole to ground us, some fuzing rooms were completely lined with brass mesh over every square inch to stop any RF energy and there are limits on how close a magazine can be sited to a transmitter, radio, radar or other, based on it's output.

Those barrels have more than enough resistance to turn a deflagration into a detonation, even a low order one like black powder, which is also called blasting powder when in paper cartridges, think firecrackers, wood is much more confining than paper. And sympathetic detonation at that distance is not unlikely, frag, flash and the blast wave itself stoving in the barrels means lots of boom to go around.

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robnot
1st Jul 2019, 9:13 PM

see that's where black powder and modern powder/explosives differ,, you can not ignite black powder with electrical spark or static electricity..
sympathetic detonation in black powder will not happen .. you have to heat the powder to ignition or apply open flame (hence my fusing the barrels).. also "frag, flash, an blast.." = frag, unless burning , will just break the barrel.. =flash, unless barrel is open , flash has no effect.. = blast wave stoving in barrels,, powder not contained , all it will do then if flame is applied is flash...

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Oldarmourer
2nd Jul 2019, 8:51 AM

I'm going to have to fall back on my almost 20 years in EOD and say... "yeah, 'black powder' most certainly is static sensitive, that's a major cause of accidents with it both past and present" a spark is a spark, doesn't matter the source

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robnot
2nd Jul 2019, 10:25 AM

yeah no.. i make black powder,, it is mostly carbon ,, great electrical conductor.. i can stick a cattle prod into it, light it , no boom.. (40k volt..)
i even tried shorting a 220 line... no joy..
but IF you leave it shorting, 8 - 10 seconds,, it does get hot enough to light..
also found this nugget..:http://www.ctmuzzleloaders.com/ctml_experiments/sparks/sparks.html

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DizzasterJuice
2nd Jul 2019, 1:26 PM

A 9v battery can ignite black powder when passed through a high resistance filament, in this case, steel wool.

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megados
2nd Jul 2019, 5:02 PM

A short piece of fine nichrome wire and an AA cell too. The piece would be short enough that some copper wire is needed because the AA cell is too long.

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robnot
3rd Jul 2019, 10:32 AM

to both, DJ, an mega... hence the " if you leave it shorting.".. in both cases you "heated the wire" , to the ignite point of the powder...
ok,, back to comic,, which i love.. (otherwise would not be commenting.).. no this was me whining bout hollywierd/media, making stupid sh,, 'stuff' believable.. IE: car crash , explodes,. frag grenade levels a house,. unlimited ammo, or gun shot blows one thru the wall..

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DizzasterJuice
3rd Jul 2019, 11:28 AM

Yes I was agreeing with you that electricity on it's own can't ignite black powder without a filament or heating up after arc for awhile.

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megados
3rd Jul 2019, 11:59 AM

Welllll . . never say never. A lightning strike is definitely hot enough, for instance, or a heliarc welder. The reason I mention that, instead of resistance welding or common arc welding, because in a heliarc welder, the voltage is high enough to start the arc without contact, and there's definitely enough energy to get it to ignite. (even without sustaining it past 1/1000 sec) It's really all about the energy in the spark. (both examples are overkill)

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Garanhir
3rd Jul 2019, 12:07 PM

A flintlock works by igniting black powder in it's priming pan with a spark from flint hitting steel, so a spark from electricity would definitely set it off.

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robnot
3rd Jul 2019, 8:27 PM

again no.. i have tried ...
the flintlock creates a "Burning Ember." not a spark..
same as starting a fire with flint an steel... what you think is a "Spark" is actually embers... or burning impurities in the flint..
the spark from electricity is actually ionized gas,, an has no real burn time or heat,, but the flip side of that (as Megados sed) IF you apply enough current , you get enough heat,, tho it is still not the spark...

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megados
3rd Jul 2019, 9:35 PM

That's an interesting point, @robnot. It is true that in the air, what you see is the ionized gas, and ionized gas conducts electricity. The heat in this case, comes from energy expended across the resistance of the ionized gas. But here's another thing. Carbon conducts electricity, and can generate heat as well, if enough energy is applied. In a vacuum, carbon conducts electricity and creates heat but won't burn without oxygen. Gunpowder could, though, because it contains its own oxidizer, (potassium nitrate). Theoretically, a person should be able to ignite it in a vacuum using the conductance of the carbon to create enough heat to begin combustion, if sufficient energy is applied.

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SteveO
2nd Jul 2019, 5:45 AM

That's an unusual way to commit seppuku.

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robnot
2nd Jul 2019, 10:27 AM

i wood think more,, splat puk eww

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