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Qwent
23rd Oct 2014, 8:44 AM

Who else sees dreads on Trashcan when it de-cloaks?

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DizzasterJuice
23rd Oct 2014, 9:23 AM

How cool would it be to have your own "Predator" as a personal body guard.

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Qwent
23rd Oct 2014, 10:07 AM

Yeah! Aw, that would be awsome!

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cAL
24th Oct 2014, 3:25 PM

Bodyguard, yes. Assassin... not so much, no.

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moizmad
23rd Oct 2014, 5:10 PM

At first I thought the werewolf was being attacked by hot-dogs but I see now, just Scrap Heap's fingers.

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DizzasterJuice
23rd Oct 2014, 7:44 PM

It's hard to find a good pair of stealth gloves when your fingers are shaped like hot-dogs.

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Skweeee
23rd Oct 2014, 5:15 PM

I like how you're showing that there is some camaraderie with these two characters.

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DizzasterJuice
23rd Oct 2014, 7:46 PM

I don't do a lot of flashbacks but the whole purpose of this one is about these two.

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jamie59
23rd Oct 2014, 8:43 PM

By by dogie.
Body armor's not ax proof?

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Body Armour Weakness

Ollathair
24th Oct 2014, 1:15 AM

The problem with Body Armour, using current designs as an example, is that while it will repel or stop penetration of high velocity objects, up to a point, slow objects, such as thin blades, often slide through.
Although it may take a little effort.

However, let us say that the Body Armour in question is indeed blessed with being made of a light weight woven fibre that is indeed water proof, blade proof, resistant to most deformation and/or reinforced at key points with semi/rigid plating style technology and can shrug off most ballistics and some energy weapon based impacts.

In this we will also included being smacked with a heavy battle hammer or it's equivalent, using some degree of force.

The only weakness of any such design is the actual impact, AKA, the kinetic energy generated.
This kinetic energy, however, would be absorbed by the thick padding material on the inside of the Body Armour.
This would mean you, should you be wearing such a device or material.

To get a clear idea of what happens, get a couple of people, make yourself a shield device, like, say, a shield.
Then practice tossing bricks at the centre of the shield until you get good at it.

Once your good at it, beg, borrow or acquire a motorcycle Helmut, fit it, then pick up the shield, brace yourself and have the other person through a brick, with great force, as per your practise session, at the centre of the shield.
Failing the use of a brick, use a 5kg/10lb medicine ball or equivalent.

This sort of thing was once part of training sessions in riot and related training that I was involved in.
The object of the lesson was to use the shield and other body armour to best effect.

However, nothing prepares you for the shock of riot or battle impact, except impact shock training.

Real body armour wearers still suffer broken bones, muscle tears, skin wounds, severe bruising and other issues from the energy transfer of a kinetic impact.
Although the Body Armour may not be otherwise damaged, or only minimally so.

However, mostly, wearing Body Armour means that you will shrug off a vast array of environmental and other hazards and nearly always survive serious impact style encounters.
Albeit, sometimes wounded. Sometimes, seriously wounded.

Also, don't actually try the above if you have any medical condition that precludes doing such things safely.
This would include having no medical insurance or it's equivalent.

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DizzasterJuice
24th Oct 2014, 9:29 AM

Pretty much right on with how I was thinking it. I can't comment too much on it though because it's kind of a spoiler.

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Body Armour

Ollathair
24th Oct 2014, 1:35 PM

Dizza,
Mate, or Buddy, as applies;

This is basic physics and also, formerly professionally speaking, a known outcome from this and other such experiences.
Knowing the outcome, as well as having had the injuries noted, is a bit of a cheat.
Such as it is.

However, the pain, and the injuries, be it described in fiction, or wounds you get to have professionally treated for a few months, courtesy of your tax dollars, remains the same.
That is, Very bloody painful.

The actual spoiler is only how you can manage the treatment and recovery, given your circumstances.
That is, being remote with limited resource, or being evacuated to a superior MilSpec medical facility.

Remote is a turd, much pain is involved until your evacuated.
Remote, with little to no chance of Evac is a bigger turd, that's when the old 'adapt, improvise, overcome' adage kicks in.

Survival, regardless, is a bonus.

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DizzasterJuice
25th Oct 2014, 1:17 PM

I would imagine that the time waiting for evac after being wounded must be the toughest part of it.

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Body Armor

Vitrvarg
26th Oct 2014, 3:26 PM

No type armor past present or future will be impervious to low powered kinetic weapons such as this. Joints must move, unless there is a skin shied of some sort that would cause the armor to become rigid under HV and energy rounds. That same skin shield would be useless against an LV weapon that depends more on a cutting edge than the sheering effect of a blast.

Body armor cannot be so thick you cannot move at all or get to hot, it has to be light weight for speed and provide some protection. Current body armor is too heavy for speed of motion, and provides little to no protection away from the chest and back. This clam-shell allows the arms freedom of movement, but the sides and the underarm have very little to no protection at all.

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DizzasterJuice
27th Oct 2014, 12:03 PM

I think the the most important developments to combat armor will come in the shape of a built in virtual combat medic. One that can apply tourniquets, ventilate airways, start IVs, and prep the patient for evac. all while under file and in just a fraction of the time that is currently done by present day medics... like on the next page.

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Question

Vitrvarg
26th Oct 2014, 3:34 PM

Trash Can said there were two attackers, why did he not make any attempt to contact his partner?

A prearranged ping signal, one for all clear and two for enemy contact is simple and unless someone is on the same frequency and knows the ping codes, there would be no vocal communication.

I think they need to go over Trash Cans programming again or reformat from a secured backup.

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DizzasterJuice
27th Oct 2014, 12:06 PM

If Vyrkola was a synthetic that could be programmed, yes that would happen. But like humans, he's able to make mistakes.

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